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2011 Continuous Gutter Parts Delivery Service w/Instruction & Tool List Updated 8 / 17 / 2011 |
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There is a substantial difference in how strong these parts are, how they work, and how long they will last. The continuous lengths of gutter I form are also better that you'll find from other Gutter Contractors, so even if they offered this type of service to the DIY you could not get these high quality parts from them at any price. They also would not be willing to share with you instructions of how to install gutters, or a list of recommended tool as I have done here shown below on this web page. As you'll see I am quite generous with information. I'll also offer a wealth of my 20 years experience to suggest improvements to the gutter system you have now after reviewing some digital photos you send me. Just to replace the downspouts alone will benefit you with substantial improvement to any homes with those dysfunctional plain square DSP (downspout pipes) found on most houses built within the last 4 decades. Those parts would run you as little as $28 for a typical 1 story application. If you would like to improve it with the larger No-clog options I offer that same DSP assembly would run about $68 each for the addition of the 2X larger outlet conversion w/Leaf-catcher. This is including all the brackets, rivets and stainless steel screws needed. Here is a testimony from a client who traveled to us from San Jose to get a set of our copper gutters and several other custom parts to suit his needs. From: Peter Troop
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For whom
is this service available? Just believing you can do this is the hardest hurdle you'll face. I applaud those who have the gumption to try, which is why I offer this service. Take the time to read over the instructions I have provided here and imagine the possibilities. |
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When can
you deliver? For gutter runs above 150' the delivery fee is waived, but for smaller parts deliveries within our local Portland, Oregon Metro area it runs $50 an hour round trip. |
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How do
I arrange this? I have gone out of my way to provide you with this convenient chart to help you work up this order. You can see a larger copy of our gutter chart by just clicking on the image to the right to print it out. Take measurements, fill it out using the prices below, and send it in with your payment. Feel free to e-mail me with a scanned copy for confirmation of your numbers or with any questions you may have. I will respond within 24 hours. I can mail you a hard copy if you are not able to print out this chart. Call me if it is very urgent. I may need to call you back, as I will most likely be at a job site, perhaps up on a ladder. To clarify your options; there are a few different ways to do this and cost options. (a) If you have a way
to come here to get the parts and safely transport them I may be
able sell
them to you for 5% less or more depending on the volume of your order.
Be sure to mention this detail when placing your order.
Remember
that I can make them a little longer to make sure they will fit just
right. If you are not sure about your measurements they can be
trimmed back to fit, but it will be very frustrating if they are too short,
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Minimum charge? I will do small jobs, but I need to have a $200 minimum for deliveries. If you are able to pick up the parts here at our shop I will waive the minimum charge. Be sure to e-mail and call first to be sure I will have the parts you need in stock and to arrange a time for me to be here for the pick-up. |
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Installation Instructions: To read more about the design and function details of our
Leaf-catchers see: |
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Gutters & Downspout Prices |
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Items |
Aluminum | Copper |
| Gutter Run-outs w/a Monster Hidden Hanger for every 2' of gutter w/a pair of stainless steel screws for each | $3 a foot |
$12 a foot 16oz or $14' for 20oz |
| 2"x3" Downspouts 10' or cut to length you need (pipe-cleats & SS screws sold separately below) |
$2.00 a foot or per elbow |
$10 a foot or per elbow |
| 2x Larger 3" x 4" Downspouts come in 10' sections, but can be cut to just the length you need. |
$3.00 a foot or per elbow |
$12 a foot or per elbow |
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Gutter Accessory Prices
Note: I don't have a fancy shopping cart system
here, so simply
e-mail with what you want. Installation instruction are below, and click here for our order and contact info |
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1.5" wide Monster Hidden Hangers:Sold separately for rehanging any 5" gutter Each comes w/a pair of #12 stainless steel screws $175 for box of 100 in 0.065 Aluminum $400 for box of 100 in 48oz Copper |
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Left
or Right End-caps:Aluminum $2 each Copper $8 each |
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Pre-fab Inside
or Outside Corners:
More common outside corner shown here in white painted aluminum |
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5"x 4' long w/black powder-bake finish over steel, curl under attachment (may need a pair of screws for each to secure). $175 per box (25 piece/100' per box, but can be packed to order) |
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Large
Pipe Cleats:5 3/4" wide 1 3/8" tall (used for mounting downspouts) w/6 rivets and a pair of stainless steel screws for each bracket. The Copper pipe cleats come with 6 SS screws per bracket. $2 each set in .065 Aluminum $8 each set in 48oz Copper |
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w/stainless steel screen strainer basket See color chart f for selections. Standard 2X3 downspout size - $25 ea. Larger 3X4 DS - $30 ea.
16oz Copper:
20oz Copper:
Please specify: Option 'c' is used with 2X3 for a larger strainer basket, or w/3X4 to make it easier to fit below into a standard 3" storm drain pipe. T To read more about the design & function details of our Leaf-catchers see:http://dmr-gutters.com/opt.htm#catchers |
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Reducer or No-clog Outlet Combo Pack: 8 sided reducer designed for corrugated 3"x 4" to 2"x 3" downspouts w/ or w/o larger industrial size 3x4 elbow.
Aluminum set:
16oz
Copper Reducer alone:
20oz
Copper Reducer alone:
16oz Copper set: Specify 12" or 15" long, and A or B style for alternate orientation. 12" would be for shallow eaves of a vertical drop, where 15" is best if you have the space out to the eaves of 21" or more. |
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Super No-clog Outlet Combo Pack: 3.25"
X 10" wide top scupper w/4" X 5" bottom sealed to a larger 3x4 elbow
(A or B style for alternate direction),
8 sided reducer designed for corrugated 3"x 4" to 2"x 3"
DSP (as shown above)
in 12" or 15" length,
w/rivets and caulked.
These are very good
for under an expansion joint for long gutter lengths, as shown here
in this image of a cut-away attachment before the other gutter
length is added.
Aluminum set:
Copper set: |
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Funnels:Used to join a pair of DS pipes down into a single DS. 15" tall x 6.5" wide, 8 sided, designed for a pair of corrugated 2"x 3" down to a single 2"x 3" downspouts, and can be made for a set of 3x4 DS. Includes rivets, a pipe cleat, and a 3 SS screws. 30 pre-painted colors for aluminum
Aluminum Funnels
(as shown) for 3x4 DS - $25 each
16oz Copper Funnel
20oz Copper Funnel 3x4 - 20oz Copper Funnel |
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Special
Rain-cups Outlet:Rain-cups are used in leu of a regular downspout to. This outlet piece helps to effectively funnel the rain water into the cups allowing for a larger outlet opening. Includes rivets, 1/4" SS hook, and 4 ga copper wire for rain-cup attachment. 30 pre-painted colors for aluminum
Aluminum Outlet (as shown)
16oz Copper
Outlet
20oz Copper
Outlet Go here for
more detailed installation instructions and photos: |
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Drip Edge
Flashing: Standard 1x3, or custom dimensions available. Recommended lengths 5' to 6', but can be made in 10' to 12' strips.
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PRO-SEAL 34
Caulk:Rated at 350% expansion. $15 each 10.5oz tube |
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Rivets: Painted aluminum (not available in all colors) $4 per 100 Copper w/brass mandrels $9 per 100 |
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Matching
touch-up spray paint:$6 per shaker can A set of color chips: for available pre-painted aluminum $2 - php |
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200' of the heavy gauge 20oz copper gutters from me to install himself
in Lake Oswego, Oregon. This may give you a better sense of what this
is like better than anything I could tell you:
From: "Berglund,
Carl A" <carl.berglund@XX.c*m>
Thanks David,
I didn't ever find a crimper
that could put a dimple for sealing the end caps that's why
I am short in that I had to use rivets on every end cap. That
sealant is some sticky stuff, worse almost than vaulkum.
<I could have gotten the tools needed for you, since many of them are not found and hardware stores. Although, I suppose that is the better way, since a few extra rivets are a lot cheaper than this hand tool you would not be likely to use again. As to the caulk; I aim to supply the best>
In any event things went
pretty smooth, I did find that on my house I could use pipe
clamps to rest the gutter on prior to putting in any screws.
This in my view made things much much easier. So depending
upon how the fascia is put up, if there is a way to either a.
clamp a board up to hold the gutter, or b. just use the end
of the clamp it made it possible to get the gutter up, then
position it, fine tune it's pitch, etc.. without ever doing
a screw - very very handy. Also If I needed a helper it was
only to get it up onto the clamps - then I was good to go.
<That is a great idea I had not considered. Aluminum gutters are only 1/3 the weight, and since all I did was aluminum for the first 5 years I never bothered to rig up something like that.>
Tips, I bought a very high
quality level (I have numerous but the precision of the bubble
for just touching the line wasn't very good. It's the blue ones
about 35-40$ for a 2 footer available at Sears home depot, Lowes
etc... it's there best one. Really did make a difference and
felt confident that the slope would be just enough but not too
much.
<That is a good point. I like the Stabila line of levels best.>
Just FYI, I find these gutters
to be "noisier" than our old. Not sure why, maybe copper, or
20 oz copper has a louder "ring" to it when water drips into
it.
<They are new and whistle clean. When they get a little debris in them they will be as quite as you remember the old ones being>
I can see why you always
wear gloves as well as long sleeve shirts, had a couple places
where it was obvious my arm touched them while installing, should
have worn a long sleeve. Chop saw worked well but
really loud, ear plugs recommended with eye protection a must.
<You are right. I should remember to caution people about how loud and shrill that is>
Back to tips, invest in a
good set of both short and long right and left tin snips. Additionally
a good set of 3 inch sheet metal bender pliers for downspouts.
<Kline or Midwest makes some good hand tools. The ships should always be the 'off-set' type. Not the type you commonly see in hardware stores.>
I found that for the downspout
holes to work out best you can not just do a simple X cut but
have to cut inward from the 1 inch hole saw area out and in
the corners need real care to get them to end up as big a hole
as possible yet have it flare into the downspout right - hope
that makes sense but showing one that you have done to a DIY
would be very helpful.
<I do: http://dmr-gutters.com/cg/Kistler4.htm . It may not show the hole-saw system. I have a standard size hole punch I use, but it shows how I make 8 cuts to maximize the outlet size.>
Pay very close attention
to downspouts near corners or against any part of the house
that projects out and do as much of the manipulation of the
downspout bracket "holder" as possible prior to mounting it
on the downspout. (I was able to do some of the bends with a
bench clamp with good success and have the bends be more where
I wanted them and cleaner this way.)
<Yes, those pipe cleats are made with a very thick 48oz copper sheet metal>
Pay close attention to rivet
placement for consistent good looks on exterior. Important - have an onsite
consultation with you to aid in planning. You solved some nice
issues in ways I would not have thought of in that I was too
caught up in how it used to be rather than what was possible
to do better.
<I aim to please>
The leaf catchers in my mind
are way more important than the screens. I am finding with the
gutters flowing properly they are not gathering to any degree
the needles and leaf fall like they used to. A good strong deluge
and the needles flow with the water and do a very good job of
getting filtered out by the leaf catchers while essentially
self cleaning the gutters. I would not ever have a house without
them. (had them on the old gutters but they were of poor design
and in that the gutters didn't always go downhill and the downspouts
were small would always clog.)
<Right, the Leaf-catchers I make are my most popular feature for selling new gutter systems>
That's about it. Some of the corners could
be prettier but acceptable overall. Haven't done the flashing
on Chimneys yet, hope to this weekend, will put a patio umbrella
into the chimney hole if raining so I can do it mostly dry. Once we rock the chimney
I will be back to you about chimney caps.
<I will look forward to hearing from you when you are ready>
Thanks again, really appreciate
everything.
Carl Berglund |
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I also make custom aluminum
and copper sheet metal parts, |
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DMR Gutters will also install gutters at your request, refer to our installation price sheet page Give me a try. Aside from the wait you may encounter, you won’t be disappointed. Guaranteed! I'd like to believe I'm worth the wait, but that's your call. |
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A Comparison to Our No-clog
Gutter System Above left is an actual aluminum LEAF GUARD ® gutter cross section profile that I have to show clients the clear difference. The image right shows our more user-friendly hinged copper leaf screen over our copper K-5 gutter for the same cost. |
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Other Helpful
Roofing Information For some valuable advice with regards to roofing and rain management issues check out our: (a)
Gutter Installation web pages for answers and solutions that could save you thousands of $ and a great deal of anguish. If you do find this information very helpful, feel free to send us a $ tip for the assistance I so freely have published on the web here for your benefit, like you might tip a waitress. Heck, send us a gift certificate for a candle lit dinner for two. <LOL> |
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I was also a 1997 finalist for this same award. See our referral web page to see how I managed to be honored with this special award |
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